PnP auto>mt wiring harnesses?

[GreekPower]

ill take one. does this take care of all the plugs/wiring needed in the swap correct? send me a message with paypal info and ill give u my address.

also lets say i dont have a auto cluster anymore, can u mark where that wire is so i can do another mod with it?

[94LegendaryAcuraGS]

Originally Posted by Legend37

Great news!! This will be a much welcomed option for the swappers out there. I will be getting one from you in the future, but my guess is Chaka jumps on one of these first!!

Shhh Sam don't be telling on me? Alex mentioned one of these to me before he got started on them.

[ActionJackson]

Looks like an OEM wiring harness, Alex. Good job.

[Gascan]

Originally Posted by Alperovich

If I had 10 willing to buyers (cash in hand) i'd consider making them cheaper too. Then take months to make it and ship then at my own leasure as telion does.

These are ready made, plug and play. No waiting. no group by needed, ready to mail.

Let's not forget what has gone into making these as well, connectors cost money, wiring, solder, tape, wire loon, heat shrink, relay sockets, relays. 5 connectors? Or 7 and a signle pin. Not to mention my time spent engineering a oe like product and actual production.

let's keep the discussion here: http://forums.acuralegend.org/pnp-au...ng-t22750.html in the feeler thread, as that's where it belongs.

What would you consider a "reasonable" price?

Alex, I'm not attacking your work, I'm just pointing out that (relative to other items made and sold on for the Legend) you've overpriced your work. Unlike a few others, I think you understood my post. I've had both fog harnesses made, I understand what goes into it. I can't see this priced over $100.

Originally Posted by 4HondaOwner

I don't agree with your food for thought.

Alex is the only person on this site who has the ability to make a variety of wiring harnesses for our needs. He is a "brilliant" individual in my estimation with regards to his wiring prowess and knowledge.

I personally saw him jump in the trunk of Blingting's car down in Legend Land and nail the wiring of two amps and then a bigger sub woofer. Wires everywhere that he didn't put there and the first time the radio was turned on Mike had sound in his car.

I never would have bought the fog lights for my car without one of Alex's wiring harnesses for it in hand.

What is your time and money worth to have something in hand that you plug and play and it works immediately? Think about it and I bet your food for thoughts above may change.

And I don't agree at all that you are an honest person. If you were and with a sound mind, your thoughts would have been kept to yourself. Put on your helmet and smash your head into the wall a few times. Then maybe you will knock some "good" sense into your head.

Stop playing favorites, nobody is attacking Alex or his capability. Now insert foot in mouth.

Originally Posted by Andyrst

That when "one" produces a quality product that is a result of being intellectually constructed. Adaptive for those modifying the original nature of their unique vision of what the final outcome will be. This very perplexing to me, some members of the forum will take parts or materials purchased on eBay, a junkyard,a donor car. Mark them up several thousand percent, and do not rate the greif that this young man has been subject too. Further more his product is not available from any dealer, parts house, or other outlet to the best of my knowledge. Innovation is not free, it takes time,effort and the desire to fulfill a need. Those harnesses available from the dealer are the results of their intellectual property available to those wanting to renew, replace, or otherwise enable features of the application, and the dealers charge admirably for them. We are in a unique position here, if we want an item from here we can bargain with our counterparts either publicly or privately to justify our own needs. In public, those needs will be harder to persuade, in private more leeway is permissible. We all have our own wants,desires,and needs that most assuredly must be met. There are others that market their modifications, products to us. We as forum member seldom call anyone out on their pricing. I have been a reader of these forums for a number of years, it is usually refreshing to see the camaraderie between it's members. It is my sincerest hope that in the future when I bring my adaptation,modification, and products for your review that you would be accepting of them , or just don't buy them. Ridicule is for the world outside , not for us that share a common bond.
Just my $.02.

See reply above...

[Andyrst]

Well maybe the secondary market ( when and if it developes) is the avenue to pursue. Plugs and a few bits of wire are worth? Knowledge and it's development "WORTHLESS". I get it. It seems you have some negotiating to do.

[Alperovich]

Originally Posted by Gascan

Alex, I'm not attacking your work, I'm just pointing out that (relative to other items made and sold on for the Legend) you've overpriced your work. Unlike a few others, I think you understood my post. I've had both fog harnesses made, I understand what goes into it. I can't see this priced over $100.

well since you've seen fog harness made, lets do a little comparison, making this harness costs me over a 1/3rd more then making a fog light set cost in just meterial cost, and possibly even double the time it takes to actually make these.

not to mention the fact that i had to completely engineer (*waste my own time*) to get these made, while the fog light harness is basically a copy of the oem with a few things deleted. and maybe some of that engineering is in the past, as i've made a few of these. i certainly feel my time and energy put into these is worth the asking price.

so is $100 shipped your best offer then? is that what you feel these are worth? i'd hate to have to find ways to cut my costs down to be able to effectively sell these at that price.

$125 is stretching it for me, honestly, for any less, it wouldn't be cost effective for me to make a 4th set, and to be completely honest, i was planning on charging a little more in the future to make a single set.

Its a niche market, you can't expect to pay wholesale prices for a quality product.

for $100 a set, i would need 10-cash-in-hand buyers, that *may* be worth it b/c i would be able to streamline the process and save some time.

ps. thank you for moving the discussion over, i would really like to come to a fair price for both parties (buyer[forum members] and seller[me])

[GreekPower]

To go off of gascans response.

Do I think the price is high? Yes only because you still need. To source other wiring. I have no problem paying 150 but it needs to have the piece he's missing which is the clutch harness.

Solder,heatshrink tape etc. Its all cheap stuff probably 30 tops in parts (we all caan go cut plugs n pocket them at a junkyard) but let's say he pays for the plugs we will add 20 in plugs. 10 for shipping and we are at 60 so far just to make your own.

How much is your time worth? To me to have my wiring done completely all I need to do is plug it in, 90 is fair to me. But as it sits now I'd only pay 120. Why? Cause I still need too get a clutch harness. For everything completed with the bypass/clutch harness 150 IMO is fair

[Legend37]

I'm in for $100.

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[holyabish1]

I say pay up or do it your damn self. Leave the man alone. I say, mods delete these bashing posts (including this one). A possible opportunity is for the buyer to source the parts needed and ship like a core program. But then everyone sucks at sourcing parts for the project, and still try to buy below core value. Want cheap parts, sell your Legend. Alex, these services are great and many benefit from these. Charge what you want, if someone else can do it as good but cheaper, then let them do it. It's called capitalism.

[Gascan]

A few of you need to realize that I'm not making an offer nor am I negotiating on the price of the harness. I'm not dependent on this harness for myself so I feel free to say what I think. And it seemed that his harnesses had not been selling like hotcakes, so I pointed out why.

Originally Posted by holyabish1

I say pay up or do it your damn self.

I tend to do just that.

Leave the man alone. I say, mods delete these bashing posts

Bashing? You must think people who don't agree with you are "haters". Grown up.

(including this one). A possible opportunity is for the buyer to source the parts needed and ship like a core program. But then everyone sucks at sourcing parts for the project, and still try to buy below core value. Want cheap parts, sell your Legend. Alex, these services are great and many benefit from these. Charge what you want, if someone else can do it as good but cheaper, then let them do it. It's called capitalism.

Yes it is. Lets let the free market decide what this harness is worth.